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Post by moses on Oct 4, 2013 22:25:04 GMT
until we find a new place, and as Sable pointed out this adress at some point, here it is, until the next exodus.
No logo, no wathever, not bouledogues on drugs
Feel free to find another place at some point, this place is not very welcoming, but hey, it's just because we'll get lost again if there's no backup
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Post by ewan_kerr on Oct 4, 2013 22:42:24 GMT
fuck it
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Post by wozowski on Oct 4, 2013 22:43:02 GMT
Well, until Phase and XO get busy with it I'll keep checking back here.
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Post by moses on Oct 4, 2013 22:45:27 GMT
well I set it up quickly as I was browsing the old one when it get hammered, so here or dnb arena are the places to check I guess ? ffs it was getting busy when it fall  |
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Post by forumless on Oct 4, 2013 22:54:09 GMT
I thought they said 48 hours ?
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Post by wozowski on Oct 4, 2013 22:58:26 GMT
So the new logo was a no go then?
I really liked it.
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Post by guest on Oct 4, 2013 22:58:47 GMT
need to turn this off m8 or we get the trolls again
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Post by jordana on Oct 4, 2013 23:02:32 GMT
until we find a new place, and as Sable pointed out this adress at some point, here it is, until the next exodus. No logo, no wathever, not bouledogues on drugs Feel free to find another place at some point, this place is not very welcoming, but hey, it's just because we'll get lost again if there's no backup We can haz logos?  I very much like the name Return To Bass (nod to the old with a fresh name for the new) This is what the sketch I came up with in 5 minutes in pixlr.com earlier and kinda posted over on the "old" new forum...  I just made these in Photoshop... as you can see a bit more refined:     RETURN TO BASS ... immediately.
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Post by moses on Oct 4, 2013 23:08:35 GMT
Ok i guess guests cant post now ? Time to go to bed for me... I hope we ll find zion very soon
For the logo etc, i ll see later but this place is meant to disapears
Cheers
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Post by cuhlmeestahcrauk on Oct 4, 2013 23:10:05 GMT
jesus why do you keep posting the same silly name? and why make not one but several logos? stop it
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Post by tolduso on Oct 4, 2013 23:14:03 GMT
don't you guys get it? freeforums.net is an unsuitable host for post-doa. there are plenty of alternatives, basically any place will be better than here because they already deleted one attempt at doa. let it not repeat. here, i set one up in barely 3 min: --> dubsonacetate.forumieren.comhost worked fine for a doa type forum couple of years ago, smashing fun with all sorts of stuff and we never had problems with the host. ask soundsurfer. anyone volunteer for admin? i'll hand over all powers to sable, woz or possibly ed ocelot (whoever is first). |
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Post by jordana on Oct 4, 2013 23:16:36 GMT
jesus why do you keep posting the same silly name? and why make not one but several logos? stop it Silly? And Hin Eye isn't? Geeze get a grip. The reason I posted the logos is because Sable asked for help with one and several people liked the 5 minute mock up I did on the old forum. I had said I'd make a cleaner one when I got home to Photoshop. When I did the old forum was gone. But I guess you didn't read that thread and missed all of that. |
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Post by jordana on Oct 4, 2013 23:20:33 GMT
don't you guys get it? freeforums.net is an unsuitable host for post-doa. there are plenty of alternatives, basically any place will be better than here because they already deleted one attempt at doa. let it not repeat. here, i set one up in barely 3 min: --> dubsonacetate.forumieren.comhost worked fine for a doa type forum couple of years ago, smashing fun with all sorts of stuff and we never had problems with the host. ask soundsurfer. anyone volunteer for admin? i'll hand over all powers to sable, woz or possibly ed ocelot (whoever is first). From what i gleaned from the other thread was that the issue was not with the host so much as with the name and initials which could very well be a copyright by the old DOA crew. So a new name with new initials are probably going to be needed regardless of where we all end up because the powers that be that own the copyright for the name and initials probably won't stop. In legalese: "Dogs on Acid, DOA and associated abbreviations in conjunction with an internet music forum". They will just pressure whatever host we're on to doing the same thing as freeforums did. |
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Post by sidius on Oct 4, 2013 23:30:02 GMT
Fucking so annoying, that was getting good
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Post by tolduso on Oct 4, 2013 23:30:17 GMT
@ jordana: even before this copyright issue sable already received warnings about the CONTENT of the forum in some years we won't have to worry about that anymore - www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/10/lowering-your-standardsbut for now it's still an issue. doa is not meant to be a family safe environment, it would lose most of it's soul. |
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Post by jordana on Oct 4, 2013 23:58:29 GMT
@ jordana: even before this copyright issue sable already received warnings about the CONTENT of the forum in some years we won't have to worry about that anymore - www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/10/lowering-your-standardsbut for now it's still an issue. doa is not meant to be a family safe environment, it would lose most of it's soul. The content issue is separate from the copyright one though. Regardless of what forum we're on if it's called DOA or Dogs on Acid and it doesn't have the blessing of the old DOA crew it's likely that the host will be given a cease and desist. As for the content, there doesn't have to be two extremes. While DOA isn't meant to be a family safe environment it also wasn't intended to be a porn site, a snuff site, etc It was about music right? Or is music no longer enough? I'm sure a middle ground between "family friendly" and "full on pornfest" could be struck. |
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Post by tolduso on Oct 5, 2013 0:10:14 GMT
how?
how would you combine two fundamentally different aspects under the limits of only one of them? the classic threads on doa are 100% incompatible to anything remotely family safe. there is no middle ground unless you want to change the nature of the board. that's exactly the point.
oh well, all good things must come to an end, right?
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Post by jordana on Oct 5, 2013 0:30:03 GMT
how? how would you combine two fundamentally different aspects under the limits of only one of them? the classic threads on doa are 100% incompatible to anything remotely family safe. there is no middle ground unless you want to change the nature of the board. that's exactly the point. oh well, all good things must come to an end, right? All things change with time. The "classic threads" as I recall were not typically NSFW. Maybe I missed a lot because I stopped reading it around 2010. But back in 2001-2004 the classic threads had nothing to do with porn fixations. DOA started as a music forum and became something that had little to do with music on the main board at least. Perhaps returning to the core of what made DOA take off in the first place wouldn't be the worst idea in the world? The alternative is just becoming some kind of 4chan type site. Is that what we want? |
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Post by tolduso on Oct 5, 2013 1:11:46 GMT
i believe doa has the potential of a self-regulating organism if it can exist freely. but i think you cannot appreciate the concept and our debate is futile.
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Post by jordana on Oct 5, 2013 1:44:38 GMT
i believe doa has the potential of a self-regulating organism if it can exist freely. but i think you cannot appreciate the concept and our debate is futile. ok. fair enough. it just sounds like a forum with no mods or one where mods are for the most part window dressing. those places tend to deteriorate quickly due to internet anonymity, plenty of evidence of that happening with many forums and to some degree it happened with the old DOA, which is why quite a few old heads left. |
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Post by wozowski on Oct 5, 2013 1:45:01 GMT
don't you guys get it? freeforums.net is an unsuitable host for post-doa. there are plenty of alternatives, basically any place will be better than here because they already deleted one attempt at doa. let it not repeat. here, i set one up in barely 3 min: --> dubsonacetate.forumieren.comhost worked fine for a doa type forum couple of years ago, smashing fun with all sorts of stuff and we never had problems with the host. ask soundsurfer. anyone volunteer for admin? i'll hand over all powers to sable, woz or possibly ed ocelot (whoever is first). It's cool, a new DOAesq site is being professionally built as we speak. We only need a temp place to stay until that is up and running and for now this should do. I suggest people start posting content. Speaking of which it was a bit shit of freeforums no to migrate the whole board across to this address. Peens. |
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Post by janedoe on Oct 5, 2013 1:55:46 GMT
wtf? so i guess the 48hrs thing was bullshit...
also, any name changing is ridiculous- dogs on acid was never a good or appropriate name for what it was, but it was, nonetheless. if someone wants to begin a new community based around drum and bass, do it- but if its really about continuing the doa, then the name needs to remain apart of it in some way acronyms or otherwise. this is the best temp solution.
edit: and yeah, those fucks cant have a redirect or something? just tried this url guessing-
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Post by robotone on Oct 5, 2013 2:04:36 GMT
hi
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Post by jordana on Oct 5, 2013 2:41:51 GMT
wtf? so i guess the 48hrs thing was bullshit... also, any name changing is ridiculous- dogs on acid was never a good or appropriate name for what it was, but it was, nonetheless. if someone wants to begin a new community based around drum and bass, do it- but if its really about continuing the doa, then the name needs to remain apart of it in some way acronyms or otherwise. this is the best temp solution. Yes. The problem looks to be the people who own the copyright to DOA not wanting to allow the name to be used for another DnB or music forum so there may be no other option. Legal fees for this stuff are likely well above what any of us could support by paid subscriptions. Your best hope of keeping the same name would be for all parties to come to some sort of agreement which hopefully can still happen. |
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Post by janedoe on Oct 5, 2013 3:47:22 GMT
temporary is the operative term. when its officially and irrevocably dead and gone, thats a diff situation- the whole thread on the first temp site about names was out of necessity and point of this and the first one was to be temp collective until more information becomes available, making 10 logos for a new name to a new site entirely seems a bit overzealous.
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Post by jordana on Oct 5, 2013 4:22:06 GMT
temporary is the operative term. when its officially and irrevocably dead and gone, thats a diff situation.
If the DOA crew had a problem with a new site starting with that name (which they did otherwise we'd still be on dogsonacid.freeforums.net) then chances are they want little to do with re-establishing the old site. Only time will tell. Sable asked for logos so as an old DOA friend I made a few up. No big dea and certainly not overzealous given the current state of affairs. |
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Post by Paul A. Magnet on Oct 5, 2013 6:38:57 GMT
im really disappointed of the owners and former runners of doa, whoever it is. the site could have always been managed better, a site in such a dimension and with such a traffic should be able to work without crashes and loading issues etc. etc.
and now coming up with the copyright thing firing at a community which just want to keep up a bit of fun.
come on.
cunts.
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Post by moses on Oct 5, 2013 6:50:28 GMT
Actually we re not sure about who started the copyright thing, are we ?
on a different note, wasn't it swift who claimed to have fully developped null nuke ?
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Post by parsley on Oct 5, 2013 7:16:33 GMT
Gutted at the fall of DOA 2.0. It was an awesome place. Sable should be canonised for it.
I think the hin is as good a name as any till things sort themselves out.
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Post by moses on Oct 5, 2013 7:20:31 GMT
yeah well as I said, it's temporary, I don't want to claim anything related to doa mine, just wanted to create quickly something were we could stay until further notice and as Sable pointed out doa.freeforums... But yeah, it's a shitty sitation, I can't believe they took down the second forum without any warnings...  e : btw I think I've managed to setup the forum so guests can see it but can't post it |
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